Future Trunks' bonus, killing Android 13s' base, gives 100 stats in every form, instead of 125 if in a 1.25 multiplier, 150 if in a 1.5 multiplier, etc. It is simply always a 100 stat gain no matter the form you are in, leading to a higher stat gain if the base is killed while in revert.
@ LV's comment. They disappear when given to an ally, instead of the ally receiving them. Will check if it happens every time or not the next time I play.
The garlic junior saga is a wee bit off. Garlic jr didnt use his portal until the Makyo star was destroyed.
My suggestion is you add in a big ball(the star) that the players have to destroy in order for him to summon his portal. Also the portal should do DPS dmg to players who touch it. Doesnt have to be much.
If you use SS or SS2 as the oozaru timer runs out, your strength is cut in half. Also, when this happened, vegeta died at the same time so that might cause it. Will test at a later time.
When the Gogeta fusion ends, your stats are set to 0 immediately afterwards. Not sure if this is as any color, as it was tested as Green and Purple. Also, fusing into Vegito fixes the stat bugs.
As Bebi, if Super 13 goes Ultra 13 while you are in his Body, you can no longer target your hero. Your hero still exists in the upper corner, but you can simply no longer target it by any means.
It seems MC still gets bugged if he dies with his clones this happened as he was on the color yellow, and he was running with a bunch of his clones outside his base and ft 1 shot him and his clones and he got bugged.
I believe we also tested MC with that bug on brown so it comes to my attention it could possibly be somethin to do with colour or him goin outside his base and diein with his clones.
I think it's because when your clones die they appear on the geti star base for a few seconds i think they get counted as a hero replacing the actual cooler with clones so it eventually leads to it gettin bugged although i can't guarntee but that's as far as i know about what exactly happens.
Maybe add King Vegeta,uub, as also another option of a new playable char maybe add a red ribbon army saga maybe consider adding the mercenary tao from dragon ball as a playable for evil maybe also android 19 also new terrain/creeps where there is alot of water added on the map
SPN_Beta and Elitebot are down, right ? So where do you guys play this ? Havent played this game for ages (ultra actually) and now want to try Elite :)
I highly suggest a change to lockon. I've stated the reasons for the change, as well as a possible suggestion, (If possible), below.
Reasoning: Goku is able to lockon away from certain nukes, such as S.S. Deadly Bomb, androids Nuke, Bebi's Revenge Death Ball, Cooler's ball nuke, Broly's nuke, Buu's ball nuke, Mankind(Although this was previously possible.) This allows him to avoid most of the evil players' nukes in a fight, aside from maybe Cell.
Suggestion: If possible, make it so that lockon is not usable when there is a nuke in the area, similar to how lockon used to be. The range could be the same as the previous lockon, but only make it unavailable if there is a nuke in the area to avoid cheesing and abusing the ability to do so.
I wouldn't say doing such a thing would make goku unkillable later on, but it does make him very difficult to land a kill on, even when he is heavily outnumbered. I also understand that it is possible to chase him through the lockon, but, that does not give the player who used the nuke the cooldown back to use it again. Another reason I'm suggesting this is because it isn't as if goku had sheerly outsmarted the player and avoiding their nuke, perceiving it. Goku just simply has the innate ability to avoid them at free will, especially if players use macros: Although most don't.
Currently, it is far too short. Also, Buu is able to use Regeneration, Angry Explosion, and then use Regeneration again very shortly after. This allows him to effectively live for much too long compared to other heroes, as well as single handedly win team fights due to the cooldown on his skills when used in conjunction. An example of this can be obtained from LV if he is able to get the replay of bot game " Dbz Tribute! #46 ".
I agree, buu definitely needs nerfing, i also think it would be a good idea to nerf hbtc gokus armor a bit z's are a bit disadvantaged compared to evil in beta.
According to a few players, Piccolo has a longer cooldown on his regeneration than Buu does as well. Not sure if this is true, as I havn't checked myself. I suggest making all regenerations the same cooldown.
Reduce the stat gain of Candy farm slightly. Not by too much that it hinders Buus' game play, but perhaps roughly 20%, or as deemed fit.
In a game recently, Lv, myself, and two others were able to force Cell and Babadi into hell at an early level, trapping them for awhile in there so that Cell could not stat farm on Earth and so that they would have to share Hell. Even after this, Buu was able to come back and out stat farm a constant chaining Goten, Goku, Krillin, and a farming FT to the point that a gang kill was unable to kill him after several attempts.
Actually i think paranoia's ideas shouldn't occur as i just observed buu and it's basically babidis summons that are imba as they work as cell jrs early in the game farming him stats + kills dabura/yakon/pui pui, plus i also think the summons shouldn't gain stats while there alive as they should gain higher stats after every summon.
When Cell is another color aside from Dark Green, such as Brown, he is able to receive his bonus for killing Gohan if the current Dark Green does the killing and not Cell.
There is no boundary for the Afterlife tournament on the right side, so players such as Geti Star, Broly, and Buu are able to use controllable nukes to attack the afterlife tournament from Geti's base area.
Piccolo's SBC needs more range to make up for it's narrow hit box, it also make sense because it's a more focused attack.
Piccolo's mankind style attack needs buffed, currently his melee damage when he's transformed is more powerful. Ways to fix this would be more damage, faster or bigger explosions.
Something that botheres me like for ever are the hitboxes. I just cant click anything !!! Would be nice, if u could look into that, but as far as i know u need to edit the model
Note to self: Remake the victory / defeat triggers.
ReplyDeleteAlso, remove any player units from the game that are not chosen
ReplyDeleteMake the smoke around fat buu pink instead of blue when he is forming. Makes more sense :P
ReplyDeleteI'll see what I can do.
Deletehokay.
DeleteWhen Cell goes into Ultra Perfect form, he spawns at 25% HP and is unable to use lockon lookout. However, Lockon Capital and Lockon west both work.
ReplyDeleteFuture Trunks' bonus, killing Android 13s' base, gives 100 stats in every form, instead of 125 if in a 1.25 multiplier, 150 if in a 1.5 multiplier, etc. It is simply always a 100 stat gain no matter the form you are in, leading to a higher stat gain if the base is killed while in revert.
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@ LV's comment. They disappear when given to an ally, instead of the ally receiving them. Will check if it happens every time or not the next time I play.
ReplyDeleteWhen Krillin buys a ticket for the first time, it is dropped.
ReplyDeleteWant to fix the Dragonball radar too? That thing is long overdue for an upgrade. (Aka breaks after first set of balls)
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I believe this was addressed. Does it not work?
DeleteMaybe add a way for Gohan to get kicked out of mystic if he tries camping in it.
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I'l just list all the old glitches THE GAME had, no clue if they still exist.
ReplyDeleteBebi enter body on minions can heal him.
Radar breaks after balls collected
Scouter can be used by droids after fusing, however they can't pick up a new one
Cooler can't get scouters
Duel with droids/ kids was broken
MC could clone mass his way into heaven
Buu can mankind people in his stomic
Buu's stomic does not scale to his level.
Broly could energy punch threw walls.
Babidi can 1 shot mc base
Bebi can glitch out of map if he enters body as buu candies it. (Can get FT sword this way)
Credits/ Krillin area can be used to hide characters (Have terrain not respawn?)
Revive tickets for Z's and Evil have different effects on mana. Could be used well alive.
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Suggestions:
ReplyDeleteGoku's house and chichi added for decoration.
Future android saga? (Maybe Mez/Goz style?)
Saibiaman explode on death?
Free for all mode (Like Death Match but obs when out of lives and no teams)
In team dueling (No xp given)
Nimbus?
Hotdogboy skin?
And I want to see more of Radits.
Bardock (Goku's dad) as an unlock-able evil character.
I think maybe the team dueling could be fun and interesting.
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The best suggestion was clearly the hotdogboy skin.
DeletePoor hotdog and his lack of a skin. I'v had one since forever.
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Also, Bardock would be such a cool idea, you could have him play out a lot like Krillin with Oz
That bring something to my attention... Does Broly have a tail?
Neutral passive is named after any heroes not chosen.
ReplyDeleteBabidi needs nerfin his hex cd should be increased and summons a bit nerfed, as earlier babidi annihilated early game kao goku WITHOUT using summons.
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Babidi's mana damage has been disabled. This should help.
DeleteCharacter selection timer i'd suggest to be increased to 1 min so that way its a bit more newb friendly.
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Add tooltips for heroes in character selection. Delay the start of mode voting and the tournament if the character selection timer is changed.
ReplyDeleteThe garlic junior saga is a wee bit off. Garlic jr didnt use his portal until the Makyo star was destroyed.
ReplyDeleteMy suggestion is you add in a big ball(the star) that the players have to destroy in order for him to summon his portal.
Also the portal should do DPS dmg to players who touch it. Doesnt have to be much.
If you use SS or SS2 as the oozaru timer runs out, your strength is cut in half. Also, when this happened, vegeta died at the same time so that might cause it. Will test at a later time.
ReplyDeleteIf Gohan kills targets in Mystic training with the Bio Broly item, he does not gain stats. Not sure if intended or if it is a bug.
ReplyDeleteWhen you fuse into Gogeta as any colors other than Red and Blue, the timer for the fusion does not show up.
ReplyDeleteWhen the Gogeta fusion ends, your stats are set to 0 immediately afterwards. Not sure if this is as any color, as it was tested as Green and Purple. Also, fusing into Vegito fixes the stat bugs.
ReplyDeleteIf you enter body as Bebi, on Super 13, you can not exit. Not sure if this is for all allies, as I have only tested it on 13 so far.
ReplyDeleteAs Bebi, if Super 13 goes Ultra 13 while you are in his Body, you can no longer target your hero. Your hero still exists in the upper corner, but you can simply no longer target it by any means.
ReplyDeleteSame with normal 3 droids if bebi goes inside, the game cant end and neither can bebi use his char as it makes it impossible for evils to also lose.
DeleteIt was reported by a pubbie if bebi enters a ally he can't leave his body even if he press's esc
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If you killed a chain and u end up past lvl 20 as cell it reverts ur lvl back to 20 even if ur 25 for example.
ReplyDeleteIt seems MC still gets bugged if he dies with his clones this happened as he was on the color yellow, and he was running with a bunch of his clones outside his base and ft 1 shot him and his clones and he got bugged.
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I believe we also tested MC with that bug on brown so it comes to my attention it could possibly be somethin to do with colour or him goin outside his base and diein with his clones.
DeleteThis really is one of the strangest bugs. I have no idea why it would happen.
DeleteI think it's because when your clones die they appear on the geti star base for a few seconds i think they get counted as a hero replacing the actual cooler with clones so it eventually leads to it gettin bugged although i can't guarntee but that's as far as i know about what exactly happens.
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There should be some sort of tournament timer for each round as people been going in to stall the game from ending.
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Cooler final form 2.5x can't enter tourny.
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Maybe add King Vegeta,uub, as also another option of a new playable char
ReplyDeletemaybe add a red ribbon army saga
maybe consider adding the mercenary tao from dragon ball as a playable for evil
maybe also android 19
also new terrain/creeps where there is alot of water added on the map
picc loses mana when he fuses both with nail and kami.
ReplyDeleteSPN_Beta and Elitebot are down, right ?
ReplyDeleteSo where do you guys play this ? Havent played this game for ages (ultra actually) and now want to try Elite :)
Evil_Vegeta now hosts it.
DeleteCell can't sense krillin (Krillin was red, could have been that)
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also goku can't lockon to krillin either
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scout doesn't work on gotenks
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I highly suggest a change to lockon. I've stated the reasons for the change, as well as a possible suggestion, (If possible), below.
ReplyDeleteReasoning: Goku is able to lockon away from certain nukes, such as S.S. Deadly Bomb, androids Nuke, Bebi's Revenge Death Ball, Cooler's ball nuke, Broly's nuke, Buu's ball nuke, Mankind(Although this was previously possible.) This allows him to avoid most of the evil players' nukes in a fight, aside from maybe Cell.
Suggestion: If possible, make it so that lockon is not usable when there is a nuke in the area, similar to how lockon used to be. The range could be the same as the previous lockon, but only make it unavailable if there is a nuke in the area to avoid cheesing and abusing the ability to do so.
I wouldn't say doing such a thing would make goku unkillable later on, but it does make him very difficult to land a kill on, even when he is heavily outnumbered. I also understand that it is possible to chase him through the lockon, but, that does not give the player who used the nuke the cooldown back to use it again. Another reason I'm suggesting this is because it isn't as if goku had sheerly outsmarted the player and avoiding their nuke, perceiving it. Goku just simply has the innate ability to avoid them at free will, especially if players use macros: Although most don't.
Suggestion for Lockon:
DeleteSimply have it take a second or two to cast, if goku is hit he does not teleport.
Future trunk's new skin sucks, switch it back.
ReplyDeleteOBS cam is not invincible, saga's can tele to it.
ReplyDeleteDon't ask how we found that one out.
Increase the cooldown of Buu's regeneration.
ReplyDeleteCurrently, it is far too short. Also, Buu is able to use Regeneration, Angry Explosion, and then use Regeneration again very shortly after. This allows him to effectively live for much too long compared to other heroes, as well as single handedly win team fights due to the cooldown on his skills when used in conjunction. An example of this can be obtained from LV if he is able to get the replay of bot game " Dbz Tribute! #46 ".
I agree, buu definitely needs nerfing, i also think it would be a good idea to nerf hbtc gokus armor a bit z's are a bit disadvantaged compared to evil in beta.
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According to a few players, Piccolo has a longer cooldown on his regeneration than Buu does as well. Not sure if this is true, as I havn't checked myself. I suggest making all regenerations the same cooldown.
DeleteThis is true, however imo Piccolo's invincibility makes up for it.
DeleteReduce the stat gain of Candy farm slightly.
ReplyDeleteNot by too much that it hinders Buus' game play, but perhaps roughly 20%, or as deemed fit.
In a game recently, Lv, myself, and two others were able to force Cell and Babadi into hell at an early level, trapping them for awhile in there so that Cell could not stat farm on Earth and so that they would have to share Hell. Even after this, Buu was able to come back and out stat farm a constant chaining Goten, Goku, Krillin, and a farming FT to the point that a gang kill was unable to kill him after several attempts.
Actually i think paranoia's ideas shouldn't occur as i just observed buu and it's basically babidis summons that are imba as they work as cell jrs early in the game farming him stats + kills dabura/yakon/pui pui, plus i also think the summons shouldn't gain stats while there alive as they should gain higher stats after every summon.
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When Cell is another color aside from Dark Green, such as Brown, he is able to receive his bonus for killing Gohan if the current Dark Green does the killing and not Cell.
ReplyDeleteSuper Buu's regeneration cooldown is reset when he absorbs a Z fighter.
ReplyDeleteIf Babadi has a dragonball when he transforms into Majin Buu, the dragonball does not transfer over with him into Majin Buus' inventory.
ReplyDeleteThere is no boundary for the Afterlife tournament on the right side, so players such as Geti Star, Broly, and Buu are able to use controllable nukes to attack the afterlife tournament from Geti's base area.
ReplyDeleteIf Evil Buu picks up an item it does not transfer to Super Buu. (Done with a Dragon ball as pink)
ReplyDeleteHow the fuck did you pick up an item as evil buu
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ReplyDeletePiccolo's SBC needs more range to make up for it's narrow hit box, it also make sense because it's a more focused attack.
ReplyDeletePiccolo's mankind style attack needs buffed, currently his melee damage when he's transformed is more powerful. Ways to fix this would be more damage, faster or bigger explosions.
Something that botheres me like for ever are the hitboxes.
ReplyDeleteI just cant click anything !!!
Would be nice, if u could look into that, but as far as i know u need to edit the model
You do indeed need to edit the model. I'll look into it.
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