Lol Frieza would be a lot different from cooler. Starting that he won't need to build things, he won't gain stats by killing Z, but by his transformations. Saying that frieza would be a clone of cooler because he is a changling is the same shit as saying dende is copy of piccolo just coz he is namek. or saying that gohan is a clone of goku only because he has oozaru, kamehameha, ss and so on(death beam and deathball skill comparison) actually you can make an original hero for frieza that would be really awesome, and i guess 99% of people would like it, because frieza is a major villain on the series.
Skill wise its the exact same. Gohan has masenko (a stun effect also), goku has dragon fist and fusion. dende and piccolo, well i assume you know yourself that that comparison was really fucking retarded ^^ :P frieza is a major villain in 1 saga yes. However we are running out of sagas to farm on if those characters keep being added!
turles was added as a character and his saga wasn't removed. if the logic keep on that, he could add frieza without removing the saga. skill wise may be similar, but cooler game is based on making towers, buildings, gathering gold/wood to make more clones, towers and become stronger. Frieza would be a totally different gameplay. It's not because they're both from same race or because they have the same skills that they MUST have exactly same gameplay.
also freeza can have unique skills as you can see: http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Frieza punishing rush, punishing blaster, death storm, killer ball, whirlwind blow, death comet and others.. some of them he only uses on first form such as punishing rush, others on secnd form like punishing blaster and death storm.. so, do you really think frieza gameplay would be exactly same as cooler?
It wouldnt be the same but it wouldnt be unique, lets say he has some transformations so what? that wont make him unique, let's say he has some kind of other abbilities some ball/blast like death beam and death ball and a rush type of attack what would make him better than any char like for instance broly: he has transformations, a sphere attack and a kind of rush abbility. yes nothing would make him unique. And if you can give a good answer to the question: "what role would frieza play?" then i would say he could be unique, but right now the way i see it, frieza's role wouldnt be unique, not like tao who is a hunter, or turles who needs to protect his tree, and can stun for like 3 secs, or dende who is a healer and a full supporter char with abbilities like enpowering dbs, or hercule who gains his multis from tourney and has just basically melee attacks. we dont need another char who lvls transforms and has nothing unique compered to other already existing chars. they way i see it frieza would'nt have any support abbilities so he would be just another "carry" (chain->lvl->transform->saga->reapeat) char
I feel kinda sad when playing the good ol DBZTE. Cause everything has been improved so much , I love it, but what makes me really sad is the fact that pubs are just stupid =/ you can't utilize there so well. btw i noticed turles is ridiculously strong, maybe some balance changes imo .
Its because the multipliers have been lowered for less rush tactic. Its perfectly fine imo, can still rush if you have a dende for example, or good teamplay. Overal cause of how the game is now, i like pubs, i have seen pubs perform very very well. you can give Frieza destructo disk and you have a krillin on evil team ->again not unique though, i just dont like frieza as character for some reason.
But then again, only 1 thing has to be fixed in order for 2.2 to really compete, the frigging crashes :P
Should Frieza be a hero? Sure. Is he unique enough to warrant adding him right now? I'm not sure. Creating a new character takes a little bit of time and I'm on a pretty tight schedule at this point in time. Given this limited time to work, I'm trying to prioritize fixing the larger issues with the map and adding new characters is not high on the priority list, unless it feels as if they would add something unique and interesting to the gameplay.
You guys aren't making the point at all, saying that freeza would be a evil krillin because of ONE skill is the same of saying that goku is exactly the same bullshit as gohan only because both have kamehameha. or saying that goku is the same crap as cell, ONLY because of kamehameha. it would be non-sense at all. krillin have other different skills, different transformations and everything, its not only destructo disc that would make him exactly the same thing of krillin. Admin, yes i understand your point, but i am just saying that for now frieza would be a priority to be added on the game.. or what you will add next? Slug? Captain Gyniu? Zarbon? Garlic Jr? Janemba? Bojack? Raditz? well.. i don't think there are any better options for evil hero than frieza. And another thing, almost all frieza models are already in the map, creating it as a hero would be an extra work for you, yes, but won't take too much size and won't make the map exceed the limit size. Cmon, DBZ fans would love to see all the major villains as playable heroes. I hope that you keep it in mind and, whenever you decide to work on a new character for evil, think about frieza.. :)
tbh it's gotten to this point, where you can't ignore that this game has become less of a Fan game and more of a competitive title. which i like. and yeah, fixing crashes definitely is one of the main things, forget the characters.
Hahaha ; and when I suggested adding Turles you stated that I should have gone play farmville!
Really nice job - Turles gameplay differs from other characters. There's sure a great potential there. Plus he's on of the best DBZ villains IMHO. Many of you may disagree, but it's a matter of liking I suppose.
Hercule actually has the lowest cast point of any hero in the game. Every other hero has a .500 cast point, where Hercule's is .300. All heroes also have cast backswings of 0 by default. Out of curiosity, though, what do you believe warrants these changes?
Game still crashes, 100% crash today so far. GG. If you still don't know what causes it why are you so reluctant to do what i said? since its the ONLY way to fix it?
surprised, the coming soon was actually really soon lol
ReplyDeleteSuper soon.
Deletecome on man, add frieza, he is one of the main villain of DBZ, turles is almost stupid near frieza or other major villain.
ReplyDeleteI'll continue with heroes that aren't just clones of heroes already in the game. Death beam and death ball, woo.
DeleteLol Frieza would be a lot different from cooler. Starting that he won't need to build things, he won't gain stats by killing Z, but by his transformations.
DeleteSaying that frieza would be a clone of cooler because he is a changling is the same shit as saying dende is copy of piccolo just coz he is namek. or saying that gohan is a clone of goku only because he has oozaru, kamehameha, ss and so on(death beam and deathball skill comparison)
actually you can make an original hero for frieza that would be really awesome, and i guess 99% of people would like it, because frieza is a major villain on the series.
Skill wise its the exact same.
DeleteGohan has masenko (a stun effect also), goku has dragon fist and fusion. dende and piccolo, well i assume you know yourself that that comparison was really fucking retarded ^^ :P
frieza is a major villain in 1 saga yes. However we are running out of sagas to farm on if those characters keep being added!
turles was added as a character and his saga wasn't removed. if the logic keep on that, he could add frieza without removing the saga.
Deleteskill wise may be similar, but cooler game is based on making towers, buildings, gathering gold/wood to make more clones, towers and become stronger. Frieza would be a totally different gameplay. It's not because they're both from same race or because they have the same skills that they MUST have exactly same gameplay.
also freeza can have unique skills as you can see:
Deletehttp://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Frieza
punishing rush, punishing blaster, death storm, killer ball, whirlwind blow, death comet and others.. some of them he only uses on first form such as punishing rush, others on secnd form like punishing blaster and death storm..
so, do you really think frieza gameplay would be exactly same as cooler?
It wouldnt be the same but it wouldnt be unique, lets say he has some transformations so what? that wont make him unique, let's say he has some kind of other abbilities some ball/blast like death beam and death ball and a rush type of attack what would make him better than any char like for instance broly: he has transformations, a sphere attack and a kind of rush abbility. yes nothing would make him unique. And if you can give a good answer to the question: "what role would frieza play?" then i would say he could be unique, but right now the way i see it, frieza's role wouldnt be unique, not like tao who is a hunter, or turles who needs to protect his tree, and can stun for like 3 secs, or dende who is a healer and a full supporter char with abbilities like enpowering dbs, or hercule who gains his multis from tourney and has just basically melee attacks. we dont need another char who lvls transforms and has nothing unique compered to other already existing chars. they way i see it frieza would'nt have any support abbilities so he would be just another "carry" (chain->lvl->transform->saga->reapeat) char
DeleteI feel kinda sad when playing the good ol DBZTE. Cause everything has been improved so much , I love it, but what makes me really sad is the fact that pubs are just stupid =/ you can't utilize there so well. btw i noticed turles is ridiculously strong, maybe some balance changes imo .
DeleteIts because the multipliers have been lowered for less rush tactic. Its perfectly fine imo, can still rush if you have a dende for example, or good teamplay.
DeleteOveral cause of how the game is now, i like pubs, i have seen pubs perform very very well.
you can give Frieza destructo disk and you have a krillin on evil team ->again not unique though, i just dont like frieza as character for some reason.
But then again, only 1 thing has to be fixed in order for 2.2 to really compete, the frigging crashes :P
Should Frieza be a hero? Sure. Is he unique enough to warrant adding him right now? I'm not sure. Creating a new character takes a little bit of time and I'm on a pretty tight schedule at this point in time. Given this limited time to work, I'm trying to prioritize fixing the larger issues with the map and adding new characters is not high on the priority list, unless it feels as if they would add something unique and interesting to the gameplay.
DeleteYou guys aren't making the point at all, saying that freeza would be a evil krillin because of ONE skill is the same of saying that goku is exactly the same bullshit as gohan only because both have kamehameha. or saying that goku is the same crap as cell, ONLY because of kamehameha. it would be non-sense at all. krillin have other different skills, different transformations and everything, its not only destructo disc that would make him exactly the same thing of krillin.
DeleteAdmin, yes i understand your point, but i am just saying that for now frieza would be a priority to be added on the game.. or what you will add next? Slug? Captain Gyniu? Zarbon? Garlic Jr? Janemba? Bojack? Raditz? well.. i don't think there are any better options for evil hero than frieza. And another thing, almost all frieza models are already in the map, creating it as a hero would be an extra work for you, yes, but won't take too much size and won't make the map exceed the limit size.
Cmon, DBZ fans would love to see all the major villains as playable heroes. I hope that you keep it in mind and, whenever you decide to work on a new character for evil, think about frieza.. :)
tbh it's gotten to this point, where you can't ignore that this game has become less of a Fan game and more of a competitive title. which i like. and yeah, fixing crashes definitely is one of the main things, forget the characters.
DeleteAdding ddisk, was meant as a positive thing. but w.e
DeleteYou prob saw me post this idk if youll act on it, but as people say tao falls off at end? Cyborg Tao would be cool I think
ReplyDeleteTao doesn't really fall off at the end, but it is absolutely very easy to fall behind as him. Open to suggestions.
DeleteHahaha ; and when I suggested adding Turles you stated that I should have gone play farmville!
ReplyDeleteReally nice job - Turles gameplay differs from other characters. There's sure a great potential there. Plus he's on of the best DBZ villains IMHO. Many of you may disagree, but it's a matter of liking I suppose.
Having rewatched tree of might recently, I'm definitely in agreement about Turles being one of the more interesting villains.
Delete-Turles is called ERROR by Zarbon after forcing him to change his original form
ReplyDelete-MINIMAP states that Turles should be able to plant the tree on Namek, but there's no suitable place there
Fixed and fixed.
DeleteWell i noticed that i can't unally turles.Pretty lame if u ask me
ReplyDeleteWhoops. Fixed.
DeleteAndroid 17's model is hard to click as cell. fix it
ReplyDeleteokay.
DeleteCan you set Hercule's Animation Cast Point and Animation Cast Back to 0.000?
ReplyDeleteCan you also increase Hercule's turn rate?
Hercule actually has the lowest cast point of any hero in the game. Every other hero has a .500 cast point, where Hercule's is .300. All heroes also have cast backswings of 0 by default. Out of curiosity, though, what do you believe warrants these changes?
DeleteGame still crashes, 100% crash today so far. GG. If you still don't know what causes it why are you so reluctant to do what i said? since its the ONLY way to fix it?
ReplyDeleteCan we make a way to unplant tree and plant in somewhere else? Its annoying to have to kill the tree before i can plant.
ReplyDeleteLure a saga onto it, lol.
DeleteI mean yah.. but :\
ReplyDelete