Saturday, September 22, 2012

Elite 2.2 032

Here's a quick rundown of what I've got so far. Feel free to add to it and give feedback.


Geti star base armor from 75 to 125.
Geti star tower armor from 5 to 10
Geti star towers gain 10 hp/second
Geti star buildings gain an additional 2% life every upgrade, no armor bonus

Removed repair from Gero
Removed self healing from Gero
Gave all Gero's units 15% life steal

Removed the text-based sense

tweaked creepmap

Gravity ball level increased to 15, from 12.
Gravity ball stats increased to 3, from 2.

Began the process of adding new heroes

Updated the endgame message to say "whois spn01"

Fixed neutral heroes appearing in hell

134 comments:

  1. But Gero was cool because he was a support char that could heal (certain) teammates. Y U REMOVE THAT?!

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    1. Agreed, and his self repair shouldn't be removed either <_<

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    2. I had a post up for 12 days asking for suggestions. Where was this discussion?

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    3. Well the new PVPGN players are starting off new on the map and decided to finally post on here so maybe perhaps that is why we are a bit late?

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    4. Maybe consider giving repair a cast time (Lock Gerro in place 3 sec) and work on it from there. Give Sense to his Android and remove it from him, his abilities will be full. Future nerfs will be inevitable, but it will keep his support functions.

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    1. Hey adam, or whoever does the map, why does broly revive get changed from level 15 to level 45? And why is cooldown for the revive so long(400 seconds) should be less. And does broly's destruction sphere go up to level 9 now because it still says level 7 when you level it up 9 times! Also Gohan potential area is NOT accessible at all, how the hell do u get to guru?

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  3. w00t new chars, about time its been like 4-5 months since we were suppose to see new chars.

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  4. Any information on who the new chars are going to be?

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  5. I think you should get rid of the entire geti star thing and just make cooler a regular hero.

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  6. Dr Gero seems pretty cool now, but his Create Android skill is still going to fall off pretty fast and he really doesn't compare to some other heroes.

    I noticed no buff to Buu's stomach cells, i am very sad.

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    1. Buu's stomache cells are strong as they are, compared to 2.1c they got buffed pretty hard and don't need anymore buffing.

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    2. Unless someone didn't play and didn't die, AFKed 90% of the match or is so bad they havent hit level 60 yet the stomach cells always lose. Yeah they shouldnt be able to beat strong guys, but it would be nice if they had a CHANCE.

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    3. Hell no, buus candy farm is already good for him as it is.

      -imbackb1tch.420

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    4. Then nerf Super Buu's monster candy a bit to compensate. Being transformed into kid buu no matter what and being realistically unable to use any of Super Buu's potential extra abilities is kinda uncool.

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    5. Nah, I think buus good as he is and doesn't need tweaks.

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    6. Balance wise probably, but he could be more fun and unique this way by having a varying set of moves available depending on what he absorbs instead of absorb being practically an automatic kid buu 99% of the time.

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    7. As far as i'm concerned, in 2.1c they were half as strong as they are right now, and they could kill anyone below lvl 60.
      If anything suggest a new skill or something for buu if you want to see something unique instead of something that won't really change much gameplay all buu will get is a gallet gun or kameha or what ever skill he absorbed off and we have seen this countless times in countless games so this is not going to be a change in gameplay really because even now its possible for buu to stay as buu and keep his skill.

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    8. In 75 games i have only seen one Buu absorb succesfully.
      Though thinking about it one way to deal wtih this problem without buffing or improving scaling on Buu's stomach would be to require two Z fighters to have escaped total for Buu to become Kid version.

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    9. I've been playing DBZ Tribute for years and all these years 90% pub games it works with buu to absorb someone whos low enough to die in your stomache, however if you play inhouses it's a different story unless if the opponent on the other team gets screwed over.

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    10. I only play pub games and unless someone leaves (in which case they are usually killed by a saga mob or another evil player) there simply is nobody low enough.

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    11. It depends on your skill level as well, and from the way your talking i'd say your skill level is pub level, which explains pretty much everything.

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    12. Well thank you for giving me the benefit of the doubt. Do you have any good tips for playing Buu?

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    13. Chain as normal then use ur summons to kill them all. at lvl 9 dont put the point in until lvl 10 so u can get yakon asap. Chain and use your 1 hit lightning on all the 12's as u chain. Then, as previously mentioned, summon yakon and PuiPui to kill all the 6's and 3's following u. Rinse and repeat. Once lvl 30 enter the tournament. Try to make sure u have 1k mana when it starts so u can summon Dabura in the tournament to kill everyone for u and make it go really quick. Then after tournament chain creeps and kill all the big guys with lightning then use dabura to kill the rest. Rinse and repeat till buu. As fat buu chain units then use your energy disbursement ability to kill the chain. As super buu run around and turn monsters into candy while chaining a bit. Change as many monsters into candy and pick up the candies. This is candy farming. DO NOT absorb z fighters as you lose your ability to candy farm. UNLESS you know they will die in ur stomach. Meaning a low level or non player.

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    14. put your pui pui and yakon on patrol on spiders (includes the ones in the middle and the ones on the hill where you previously unlocked krillin code) this will give you faster kills to reach buu

      there was one more tip too but i forgot i will post it on here later when i remember it

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    15. What evan said, except dont go tourney, always try to get fat buu out asap. Tourney is useless for that.
      patrol spiders with pui pui and yakon idd, and chain areas with a lot of mobs (dont need to be high) is all i can add.

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    16. but diesel if you go tourny with baba you can insta kill it if u summon dabura which imo is good to do for fast stats (around 200-300 stats)

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    17. Also, concerning Dr. Gero's creeps: They are not meant to fight players, they were designed as a farming and scouting tool.

      I will have a series of suggestions for Gero in a new thread.

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    18. It's quite hard to get 1000 mana though, unless you finish round 1 first. But that takes a long time.

      I guess if everything works out then it might just be helpfull yes, but i feel like in the long run you are better of rushing to buu. Especially if there is a good Z fighter playing and going tourney.

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    19. Agreed with diesel, buu getting tourny usually doesn't work on in a inhouse unless if all z's failed or got screwed somehow there would be a 95% chance they would let any evil get tourny.

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  7. I think making his self heal into life steal was a good start. Although, I think it would be cool to make it a move. Like punch with hercule he runs up and grabs them for a second and heals himself a little while hurting the enemy player. Idk how much dmg you want it to do though.

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  8. could make it stun for a second or 2 to give it that "vampire" android sucking u dry affect. no homo.

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  9. Can you tell us if you have any plans for how Dr.Gero's bonus will work? His 1-100 levelling says it is temporary. I think it should be based on energy absorption, though that may require shuffling that ability's level around.

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    1. https://docs.google.com/document/d/13FYWjRcwM1SgvUx4S0UUAMiflX82IE3fl0uFgzyfcTs/edit

      The characters original "sketch" done by me about 140 days ago.

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  10. Absorption could be removed in favor of a passive that reduces spell damage by a good percentage. Any spell dmg would would go through a formula to calculate how much stats is going into gero.

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    1. That sounds kinda cool and would free up a slot for android repair. It would leave 19 very boring though.
      One thing that makes me like it is how Gero only has Eye Beams for energy, so this would help him against characters who have lots of spell burst since he doesn't.

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    2. Lets see how my fix works first. I really like the spells mechanics.

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  11. Add a stats table that shows the following and team dueling (but the team that loses doesn't die) and maybe add a little reward system to make it interesting

    Kills:
    Sagas Completed:
    Beam accuracy %
    Deaths:
    Tickets Used:

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    1. Agreed. Much better then creepmap.

      Also, remove -creepmap, the recording of it's data is useless and takes up RAM. (My computer sucks, have mercy)

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    2. It may even be responsible for the map skipping.

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  12. I still say Gero needs a entering hell based stat boost (Nerf the current cap and add 0.25 for his first visit to hell) This will make him a little more unique.

    Buff the movespeed of his turn android creations.

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  13. At 2 hours in have a team duel to end the game. Im tired of hide and go seek.

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    1. lol'd at hide and go seek.

      This is also a good idea but i think there should be team dueling in the game every 10 minutes as well and maybe if the game DOES go on for 2 hours then have a final team duel match.

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  14. Character matchups:

    Saga Hunters: (More effective against Sagas then players)
    Krillin, Future Trunks, Androids
    2v1

    Player Hunters:(Benefits from hunter players/ Very mobile)
    Goku, Cell, Tao, Bebi, Buu, MC
    1v5

    Torny Rushers: (Additional benefits from Torn)
    Herc, Buu, Tao
    1v2

    Farmers: (Have farming based mechanics)
    MC, Cell, Pic, Buu, Gero, Kids, Bebi
    2v5

    Rushers: (PvP well before lvl 20)
    Gohan, Goku, Vegeta, Bebi, Trunks, Broly, Tao, Krillin
    5v3

    Support: (Have support based spells)
    Dende, Gero, Goku
    2v1

    Tanky: (Have high hp or deffencive spells)
    Future Trunks, Goku, Vegeta, Pic, Gero, Broly
    4v2

    Raw Attack: (High attack damage)
    Trunks, Herc
    2v0

    Meele: (Works best in close range)
    Tao, Trunks, Herc, Gero, Broly
    2v3

    Spike Damage: (Long cooldown, high damage)
    Bebi, Buu, Androids, Krillin, Kids
    2v3

    Self Healing: (Heal spell)
    Pic, Dende, Bebi, Cell, Gero, Buu, Broly, MC
    2v5

    Spammy: (Med damage, Low CD spells)
    Gohan, Vegeta, Herc, Cell, Broly
    3v1




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  15. Also bebis a bit OP'd now and i remember ultra13 had posted about it on a previous version post.

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    1. For starters he needs his tier 4 creeps nerfed.
      second his blitz needs a little nerf for sure.

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    2. Id say reduce it's initial damage/ per level damage and add an extra level or two to the spell.

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  16. I just won a 1v6 as Androids and i didn't save a replay because i am stupid. For some reason i felt like mentioning this.

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    1. Tell me your user name. We can do a 1v1 and see how well you do.

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    2. Nukemouse, it was a pub game obviously so they were probably not very good, game only lasted 30 minutes or so but a 1v1 could be fun.

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  17. Fat Gogeta, and non-super Gotenks do not have sense.

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    1. Fat Gogeta doesn't deserve sense.
      Non super Gotenks will need it. Also add an unfuse command already.

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    2. I think there are some others as well without Sense, but i just can't remember who.

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    3. All 3 androids have sense. Only 13 needs it.

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    4. No, Androids tend to split up to farm and being able to sense foes you encounter who flee can be important.
      Unless you are suggesting its overpowered.

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  18. Androids don't gain the bonus for killing a Z fighter after level 35 even if they haven't absorbed anyone.j I believe the transmitters also stop working at this point.

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  19. Suggestion for the future of the stat training system:

    Have, at the beginning of the game, the option to adjust the stat distribution of your character by +2, -1, -1 in to any stat of your choice. This could be done with -str -int or -agi.

    With the one point limit it should be more balanced, and add multiple builds for each character.

    Additionally late game armor should be capped to 90% DR MAX. This will make Tao less OP end game and Herc have a better late game.

    Additionally Hercules KICK ability should move him to the target and have a range of twice his character size.

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    1. Then maybe the bot wouldn't tell me its bannable to use a game feature and the spells that don't scale on Int would be relevant!

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    1. Characters that are UNDER POWERED:
      Kids

      Characters that are OVER POWERED:
      Bebi
      MC(Being nerfed)

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    2. Just a note, I still have yet to win a 6v1 as kids. Not for lack of trying.

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    3. because it is balanced if you win a 6 v 1?

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  21. it seems full power when piccolo goes kami he doesn't have the sense ability in his inventory.

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  22. uub must a be a playable character please

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    1. Hardcore Heros: (Stats on)

      Int Hercule: The trap master
      Agi Tao: The one shot wonder
      Str Future Trunks: The steamroller
      Int Kids: The Kamikaze bomber
      Str Goku/Veg: The monkey king
      Int Buu: The nuke
      Int Dende: The White Mage


      Challenge: Defeat a team possessing any of these hero's solo.




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  24. Torny removes control of hero's from ally's.

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  25. How to win as Tao: Reach level 15, have 1000 mana.
    You are now near invincible, farm till you win.

    How to win as Goku: Grab all the senzu beans, use lockon.

    How to win as MC: Get 20 upgrades, camp Krillin. GG.

    How to win as Dende: Have a competent teammate.

    How to win as Cell: Reach level 130, get Ulti form, find some beans, use lockon.

    How to win as Dr Gero: Summon 19 and have him farm. Run around like a mad man.

    How to win as Vegeta: Have a decent Goku in game. Share your chains.

    How to win as Androids: Send one droid to chain towards each of your teammates, have them chain to your droids as well. Watch as you out level everyone.

    How to win as Hercule: Have a friend do first torny for you.

    How to win as Krillin: Learn to aim.

    How to win as Bebi: Play hide and go seek well farming.


    And this is how every character is OPed. At least it balances itself out.

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  26. Tao's target name stops showing up sometimes and things like MC's upgrade list or Tao's target list completely disappear after a tourney.

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  27. I can't help but notice I gain less exp when im yellow and play as tao vs pink. Like when I kill the 2 bandits as pink I'm level 3 where when I kill them as yellow I'm a few exp away from level 3. I haven't tried this as any other color.

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    1. Interesting. Did yellow ever have an EXP nerf from pre 2.2?

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    2. He is indeed correct, there is something bugged about tao or the creeps as sometimes killing those 2 bandits gets me lvl 3 and sometimes 3/4 of the way to lvl 3

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    3. could it be that gero is close? get more xp from leeching then killing atm

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  28. Kicked Hercules ass in first tourny and facing shen as gero, suddenly my stats go down to 75 from 300.

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    1. Did you save a replay of this?

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    2. No, but this happened right after I leveled up from killing tien in the tourny.

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  30. How about releasing a new version with balance fixes then another one with new content?

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    1. Id personally be happy to see an update with just mc fixed at this point.

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  31. Since this blog is really helpful can anyone give me advice for playing Goten/Trunks? Or are they just that bad?
    Gotenks doesn't even seem to have Galactic Donuts or Big Tree Cannon and the kids only have one skill each, how do i make this character work?

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    1. They are sitting at around average currently. They are about as powerful as Gohan

      The thing about kids is they are hard to play sometimes. I need to know your skill level before I can recommend anything.

      Answer the following from 1-5:
      How well can you chain:
      How competent are you at controlling multiple units:
      How well do you work in a team:
      How likely are you to be on a team with a few good players:
      What character are you the best at:
      How aggressive do you like to play:

      Answer the following:
      How many games have you played of tribute:
      What version do you play?: (2.2 or 2.1)


      After you answer these or post a replay (I can tell you how, this works better) I can give you pointers for any character you wish.

      -Ultra13 (The guy who posts too much)

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    2. I can chain. I wouldn't say exceptionally as i seem to be outlevelled at the beginning by others who chain, whilst i catch up later i often find myself at level 5 or so when other players are 8-10 on most characters who use beam chaining.
      I play Androids and Metal Cooler a lot and this isn't the only map i play, I'm fine with multiple units.
      I play pub, maybe one in ten games i HAVE a team after eight minutes. I seem to do fine in the rare occasions someone actually wants to interact with their teammates.
      See above.
      I guess Androids but they aren't very hard.
      Due to the pub game part i am usually against 1-3 opponents, there often isn't really anyone to be aggressive against. Unless i get lucky or bump into someone during a saga i probably wont find people until my sense is half the damn map.
      I might try to get a gotenks replay, but i figure answering the questions as well will help.

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    3. Also 80ish and 2.2, i find 2.1 to be filled with people who only speak spanish and it's less fun.

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    4. Alright.
      Type west at the start, ask Vegeta, Gohan, Goku and Pic to chain towards the center of the water. If any of them do, extra exp for all.

      Otherwise just kill the two level 6 golums above the west spawn. (Save your mana, only punch them) Then you should get lvl 3 each. Chain up threw the water to the top middle of it. Find a choke point, or group up with teamates and share chains. Use both your spells on them and you will kill 95% of the chain. Putting you to around level 10.

      At this point run up into the field above, if Metal Cooler, Bebi or Cell is in the game, now is your time to shine. Run in the direction of their spawn and use sense. If you find them hunt them down and kill them. Take their chain if they have one too.

      If there is no evils split up 1 on left 1 on right and have each do a semi circle towards the top chaining. When together start killing the chain and bring it towards the saga. If you have teamates nearby, split the chaining with them and get Bebi`s spawn too. Group up then kill it.

      After this area has been cleared go to the first saga, if you run into any weak evils kill them. Any fed evil will own you so just hit and run against a good Broly or Bebi.

      Your teamates are going to want the saga, if they are around just assist them and ask for the seeds instead. If not take it and keep rushing. At this point have the most damaged/low mana kid run to the tower and get some beans. Get 2 if the stock is full.

      Your other kid should kill spiders in the future for some quick stats. Hunt tao and Gero if you can find them. If androids are weak get them too. Buu should be long gone in the mountains by now, but kill him if he is near.

      Have the kid with the beans chain to a teamate. Share chains and give him a bean. Use yours to heal when you start to slow down. Your goal is to reach level 24 by the torny start. If you do, jump into it with one kid. If not get the Dragonball radar instead. Chain the second torny fight and use SS to kill him with blasts. The rest will be cake if you kill him. If your teamates try to do the torny let them if they are as strong as you, its not worth wasting time on fighting with your team.

      Your next goal is to help your team chain and collect the dragonballs. Stay away from Sagas and fights now, your going to be weak. If dende is in game, make friends with him, hes great to chain with. Top left is the best area to do so.

      Here comes the game winner:

      Have your team do HBTC all at once around level 60-70. Since the xp shares its possible to have everyone on a circle training and getting full xp. As kids each kid will get full xp from the share, as long as you dont kill the guy yourself. Stay here till your done.

      If your team wont coroperait or is too weak to help you train in HBTC then just fuse at level 85 and do it.

      Delay fusing till you see a reason to do it. (Going for MC base, saga's are not getting done, Can win the game soon, ect)

      Make sure to get the torny and afterlife torny whenever possible. If a kid dies let him heaven train. Yamcha works best till 50, then do the guy at the top. Make sure to get heaven tornys and to always get the food from King Kai, since he only spawns one at a time. Its mana restore will let you stay SS all game.

      Never fuse before 85. Always try for SS fusion. Fuse before you revive if possible. Get your tickets from King Kai, your heaven training anyways, spawn them when you can and drop them for your team.

      After you fuse make sure MC is dead as can be. From there on just do Sagas and hunt evils. If you find yourself chaining you should have waited to fuse.

      Hope this helps.

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    5. Notes: Kill the level 6 golums at the start no matter what. They are just to the north. You need level 2 spells to kill your chain in one go.

      If you find good players ask to be friends, having a partner will make games 10x easier.

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    6. Thanks, i think this will help, nearly all of the things you mentioned are things i haven't been properly doing on this character.

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    7. Yeah. HBTC with 4 teamates will put each kid up about 50 levels, which is a really OPed boost.

      Another good idea is to be near a teammate when they kill Ginyu and Zarbon. They give quite a few levels.

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    8. Trying a few more games i have come to the following conclusions.
      I'm useless until gotenks SS3, but then i become absurdly powerful, even beating people who farmed better than me.
      Only one in a hundred Z fighter players in pubs speak english and those that do don't ever want to share chains or conduct teamwork in any way and will get actively angry if i come within a hundred miles of them. Even dende players, who will insist on soloing much harder than anyone else.
      Goten and Kid Trunks aren't very fun to play compared to most evils.

      Your advice did help me a lot though.

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    9. No problem bud. Talk to Imbackb1tch.420 and ask around clan SPN if your looking for competitive English speaking players to play with. Just say that I sent you.

      Also, I feel your pain. The only way to play as Z's now is to pick Krillin and rush hard. Because your team is not a team.

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    10. I would be less annoyed by the terrible Z fighter players if it wasn't for the lovely evil ones.
      Evil players almost always hold their own and are usually willing to share dragon balls, help each other do sagas, hunt Z's together etc.

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    11. Yeah, just don't get stuck in hell with them.

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  32. oi so how do we download the map?

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    1. Go to battle.net and type /whois SPN01 then join that to get the newest version. The version in this blog post is still under development.

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    2. what happens if we dont use battle.net and use garena?

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    3. Uh... you can still play the map, but i don't know where to download it. If one of you logged on to battle.net once and DLed it he could share with the others over Garena. I think version 2.1c is on Epicwar, though thats slightly old.

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    4. If you want to get 2.2 your going to haft to wait for this version to come out. When it does someone will offer a download link for those who can not get it from Battle.net or who need it to host.

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    5. Or follow the previous suggestions.

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    6. http://www.mediafire.com/?oi7zizqett055l0


      thats the link to DL the newest version out atm

      Beta 031

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    7. They shut down this one too LOL. Some asshole is following this blog to shut down a wc3 map. That's pathetic

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  33. when the map will be ready??

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    1. No current release date, hopefully it will be released soon

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    2. Are you working on the beta with the admin?

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    3. No, however i'm the leader of Clan SPN supporting the map.

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  34. I have am minor complaint regarding krillin's multipliers, the help skills command doesn't show all of his current multiplier but it does help show where to get the new skills.

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  35. Decent find. Didn't even know that it was missing. Should be a minor fix.

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  36. Fuck it, I'm going to say what everyone is thinking.

    BROLY IS BORING!
    Give him some insane ape shit throwing stuff. Like make trees near him burst into flame and minions just drop dead by touching him during late game.

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    1. Gotenks and Gohan aren't all that fun and personally i don't think vegeta is too interesting either.
      Broly isn't all that bad.

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  37. OMG I REMEMBERED A GLITCH!

    You can pick up the broken Dragon Balls and walk around with them like a tool. Fix them, they should stack in inventory and be used for a secret.

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  38. If tao dies with items in his inventory while hes on pillar, the items dissapear

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  39. If cell has a dball in his inventory when hes first form and absorbs android and gets 2nd form the dball is still located on his first form so its impossible to get the dball

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  40. add frieza,turles,king cold(mybe), roshi, bardock, king vegeta (maby), tein, yamacha, chizu (teins lil friend), n if broly dies after lvl 150-175 he turns into biobroly

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  41. if youd add frieza he should be something like lvl 30 2nd form lvl 60 3rd form final form lvl 90 and fullpower (type fp) lvl 120.... be interisting

    bardock- based on giant ape power for lvls like boost his ape form stats at certain levels and make him like lvl 80 ss (cause he is first ss in one of movies) (time travels)

    turles leave as saga

    king cold leave as saga

    tein would be interesting , could make him a partner like yamach or chizazu(bad spelling) make them porta fuse at 100 to teincha or something

    roshi be fun someyhing like lvl 30 learn max power and level 50 (skill) orginal kamamamha ... could make him a support or major skiller att person

    broly turning into bio brolys would be good

    and if frieza does get added do same thing as broly but probz lvl 150 to mecha frieza

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  42. Generally the maker of this map prefers "Put this hero in" to come with a large list of well designed skills not just the general description of "Great Ape focused and powers up at this level".

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  43. Frieza is too integral to many of the sagas to suitably be a character. I'v pondered about it for years now. Doesn't seem to be any decent way to make him playable.

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  44. Why not just make him "Frieza from another dimension". Hercule appears in tournaments yet we have him playable.

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    1. Valid point, but its also a lot of work to include a new character. And with 3 just out, plus whatever Adam does with his life I don't think he has time for another.

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    2. Of course, but somewhere down the line if this map is continued its not impossible.

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    3. I'd place it at a 10% chance in the next three years. I'm pretty sure that War3 will become barren before it happens.

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  45. they should make it frieza son!
    kurzia i think his name is ... anyway he looks like frieza but is orange where friezas pink.... it be awsome and if they do make frieza make him fuse with cell or something to make evil have a ultimate hero as well... like gogeta but with frieza and cell call him somthing like Fricell or something but u get were im coming from

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  46. I honestly didn't want to put this up since you might have things to do with your life.

    But it's been MONTHS since you updated anything.

    Can't you post something,even a list of things you did?

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  47. Hello i have some experience in map making and i would like to help out with this map i can get many models i know a ton of great sites and i could improve some of your spells if you want you can contact me on garena or eurobattle.net my names on both of those are Arthas45 if you send request on garena and i reccomend that you make garena.In the description message just dbz tribute elite so i know its you.Hope to hear a response soon

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    1. Can you provide an email in case if the maker of map decides to contact you?

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  48. deni.nazdrajic@hotmail.com

    u can contact me there

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  49. We need MC nerfed even after this tower nerf the geti star fragment can still solo heroes etc easily. I would say 3-5% less damage would be better or 10% less atk speed. Also since the layout of the map is so vast now, his towers need to cost more lumber or something. Those are some suggestions I have but so far Gero seems to be balanced. As for bebi, well idk yet. Will post other useful info soon. ~SV

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